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Peter Joseph's avatar

Excellent article. Taxes do not change the fiscal space though. Not with an MMT lens.

I appreciate the focus here was on Government spending, but introducing that banks loans create deposits may have been informative.

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Kevin Mayes's avatar

Welcome to Substack, Morgan. Yours is a very timely entry into the debate on government finance- to bring observations that are specific to the NZ scene.

As a MMT-familiar person, much of the general points are already known to me. One NZ specific that interests me is: "The Reserve Bank Act 2021 states that the Reserve Bank can provide ‘settlement accounts for persons approved by the Bank". I understand that 'cash' has certain properties that make is similar in status to 'reserves' (which I take to mean settlement funds held at the RB) Does this mean that the way is already clear legally for the introduction of CBDC to the general public? What about Bond-backed interest bearing savings accounts held at the RB too? The reason I'm keen on these ideas is because IMO there's a necessity to eliminate the 'too big to fail' hubris of commercial banks, and the capacity to bank with the RB creates that opportunity.

I feel like the bond interest issue is the real 'elephant in the room', and it's the one thing that Richard Murphy in the UK gets constantly dissed for on the comments to his frequent and popular Youtube videos. Perhaps you could address it in a post one day? I asked the same question of Steve Keen recently, and his reply was: "I don't mind banks getting interest on bonds--it partly finances the payments system they provide as a public service*. But I do mind them being able to sell as many bonds as they like to NBFIs and the private sector, which undermines the government's money creation. There were rules restricting this in my youth in Australia, and they need to be reintroduced". Steven Hail, at the MML seminar, gave another set of reasons, including "guide to long term interest rates"I, and the obvious "the private sector like to hold them" (of course they do ffs- that doesn't mean they should!). In my view there's something else going on that's driving the conversion of almost all (rather than just some) Treasury 'debt' (or negative balance if you prefer not to use the 'D'-word) at the RB into Bonds- maybe a consensus to maintain the illusion to the public that money is, for the government, a scarce and expensive commodity to be used sparingly- just as it is for households. Maybe it is simply a conveyor-belt of income from the public purse into private pockets- literally institutionalised usury of the public purse that's a hangover from the gold-standard that no-one has the balls to call-out as such? For those of us working at the coalface trying to persuade the 'great unwashed' voting public of NZ that this isn't an idiotic fantasy or communist plot, this is the core stumbling block.

Good luck with the 'Stack!

*IMO the cost of the payments system should be up front and on the customers' monthly charge, making it subject to competitive forces- not hidden away from view in some arrangement between the RB and the commercial banks.

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